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1471: BET Awards 2017

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Rod and Karen discuss Bruno Mars’ appropriation of black music debate, the BET Awards, woman paralyzed from orgasm, man kills dad with bat, woman beats daughter’s boyfriend with cue ball and sword ratchetness.

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6 Comments

  1. reallydarkknight

    I might be able to get down with the cultural appropriation conversation if I knew what the rules were. As I see it, if you like the artist, then it’s fine…if you don’t, they can go fuck themselves. Bruno Mars is jammin, so I fucks with that dude. I guess I don’t have the time or energy to fight about what EYE get down with.

    I don’t like most of those youtube remix videos, Karen’s evil husband!

  2. Coonfucious (@Blike_Dante)

    Great BET awards recap y’all. The New Edition tribute was the highlight of the night. People can say what they want but when it comes to tributes, BET gets it right. My mans Ralph Tresvant was out here looking like the uncle that be messaging women on Facebook like “hey baby girl” and Bobby with that damn fur is old nigga goals.

    Sidebar you’ve never seen Ralph and Montel Williams in the same place. Stay woke.

  3. Mack

    Honestly, I didn’t realize Bruno wasn’t black until recently, so this whole appropriation conversation caught me off guard.

  4. LisaW

    Cultural appropriation is a non starter for me I just can’t get worked up about it but that’s just me. I have friends and relatives that get heated and they have every right, you feel what you feel. But once your art is out in the world, especially music, it belongs to everyone, in my opinion. Hurt & angry Mary is the best Mary. That may be selfish but it’s true. I disappeared down the KPop black hole a couple of years ago, and I am still there. Thanks for the constantly great shows.

  5. Rigo Fernandez (@chi_rigo606)

    Hi Karen and Karen’s husband, love you both. On Bruno Mars, there’s been a lot of discussion as to how his POC background of being a Hawaiian Filipino identifies him as nonblack. But the problem with that argument is that it completely ignores his Puerto Rican roots. Historically, Puerto Rico had an indigenous population until it was invaded by European settler Christopher Columbus which led to slaves being brought to the island. There’s been a lot going on politically since that time but eventually Puerto Rico would go on to pass a “One-drop rule” where a person could be considered racially white if they could prove in the past 4 generations that they had a white blood relative.So while Puerto Rico’s ethnic make-up is technically considered White by some, there’s a long genealogy of these POC having African roots that have been politically denied by the anti-black culture.Back to Bruno Mars, he’s come out and talked about his ancestry and how he’s not ashamed of being Puerto Rican or Black. Since cultural appropriation is the adoption or use of the elements of one culture by members of another culture, I find it difficult to accuse Bruno Mars of cultural appropriation. He’s a Black man giving credit to and using Black music to make that bank and represent his own experiences. The fact that he also has genes from other places in the world is irrelevant unless one is trying to erase/challenge his Black/Afro-Latinx experience.

    • Anonymous

      I agree with Rigo.

      I haven’t had cable for about three years now, but I always watched the BET Awards and the BET Hip-Hop Awards. I enjoyed them because they were filled with acts that I knew and liked unlike the Grammys (from the 1980s and 1990s). Before the BET Awards, I had the Soul Train Awards. I enjoy your BET Awards recap. You both are always funny and on point. 🙂 I was glad to hear that they also did a tribute to George Michael. I remember the controversy when he was nominated for a Soul Train Award in the late 80s. I feel like George Michael was always making soulful R&B music. (The same with Culture Club and Sam Smith.) Like you said, Rod, what’s great about us is that we can accept others and welcome them in.

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