Rod and Karen discuss the Super Bowl, Cardi B, 21 Savage, the online fights around these topics, a program to get more women involved in hip hop production, Liam Neeson wanted to kill a random black man, Northam press conference, school apologizes for teacher in blackface, customer says he’s Jesus, Pastor arrested for having sex with inmates, model beef ends in murder and sword ratchetness.
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I still don’t know how I feel about the Liam Neeson situation. In this day and age, I’m usually more surprised if a white person hasn’t done something racist in their past.
Man I really felt what Karen said about being so angry and depressed after 2016. In my case mostly because of the Brexit fallout and the toxicity of any conversations about it afterwards with some of my friends. Folks I’d known since I got to the UK as a kid. Being so hateful but then compartmentalising my existence somehow. Really appreciate what Karen said. Helped me verbalize how I actually felt about that stuff too.
On the topic of the liam Neeson thing. Yall probably wont be surprised to hear the UK news media has been unbearable the last week. The takes has been hot. Sky News (one of our big news channels, owned by fox) has a YouTube channel that always gets dislikes on every video whenever someone expresses a left leaning thought but theres overwhelming likes and almost a million views on a video of a black former footballer names John barnes talking about how Neeson deserves a medal for saying that shit. “Hes just being honest, we need to have a conversation” the dude waffles on. I’ve been so heated about the whole thing but so many people around me online and off have been giving Neeson excuses they dont even see the hypocrisy of how they rush to excuse racist behaviour but when any POC does anything even the slightest bit iffy its widespread condemnation. Always the benefit of the doubt with the person doing the wrong. Afua Hirsch was one of the few people I saw making sense (she always be the only one making sense on sky news these days) on the panel show shes on where she went off while the white women tried to call Neeson the victim because all the black people felt some type way about what he said. It’s a mess. Appreciated hearing your takes on it. These people out here making me feel like I’m crazy.
I don’t even have the words to express just how wonderful this episode was. You guys put words to a lot of my thoughts and feelings. Especially the social media comments. Your whole conversation and comments about what happens on Social Media is why I took a step back from it. To many angry people with unclear messages and agendas. I appreciate you guys transparency. The anger is a sign of depression conversation was everything. Thank you for being you.
I just have to chime in on two things Karen shared on this episode. First, it’s so important that we realize that depression can manifest as anger. Thank you for that. I also identified with how drinking more than you want to be drinking is an important sign. It was definitely a wake-up call for me a couple years ago.
Second, I’m always thrilled to hear about women discovering the joy and endless benefits of running!!! I find evangelists to be obnoxious, but I am a shameless evangelist for running. In 2011, I founded the local chapter of Black Girls RUN! I stepped down from local leadership years ago, but the group is still going strong. It always makes me happy to meet black women who don’t know what it’s like to live in Columbus, Ohio without the camaraderie of BGR! I love that you’re getting so many benefits from running, and there’s a lot to be gained from dong it alone, but I hope you’ll check out the Charlotte chapter. I attended the national conference of BGR! when it was in Charlotte in September 2013. Those women have BEAUTIFUL energy, and they are just as committed to walking as to running. “No woman left behind” is one of our mottos. (You can join the Black Girls RUN! Charlotte facebook group without any commitment or anything. That’ll give you access to their weekly meet-up calendar. It’s members-only so random people don’t have access to locations, etc.) Whatever choices you make, I’m just glad to hear you’re enjoying it!
Ah! The 2019 national conference is in Charlotte, too! Sept 19-21. FYI: https://www.sweatwithyoursole.com/
Hi Rod and Karen!
(Incoming a long ass comment):
I just wanted to leave a comment about you guys’ discussion on depression and anger. My grandmother passed away last May from cancer, and I was so angry with my family for months for not coming together, which was one of her last requests when she found out. I was so angry and empty during her illness and months after her death. I didn’t cry about it until months later. I really started to feel a shift in my demeanor last September when my best friend said to me, “you look really sad”, and I hadn’t even fully processed all of my feelings about it. I had been going for months on “its fine”, and “I knew it was going to happen”, but allowing myself to really FEEL wasn’t an option. I thought I had to be strong and a rock for my mother, because it was always the three of us (my grandmother, my mom, and me), and got told as much up until the moment she passed away with us around her. I now know that those feeling of brushing off the emptiness and anger I felt was clear depression from September until just recently, and I’m slowly getting better. I just wanted to let you guys know how much this conversation really touched and resonated with me. Thanks for all you do guys! 🙂
Just wanted to say that I completely relate to Karen’s story of being depressed and filled with rage after the 2016 election. I spent the first half of 2017 feeling rage daily and then spent the second half feeling numb. It got so bad that I had a panic attack in my car after seeing someone’s vanity license plate that said “PRAYTRMP (Pray Trump)â€. I decided to find my joy again in 2018 and continue to do so in 2019. Thanks for sharing your story.